Talk:Robot Girl (3.5e Race)

Fluff Missing

It looks like you want to be a Construct (Living Construct). Go check out warforged, see what they get, and copy that. Note that Living Constructs have an overall -2 to their ability scores, because they come with a TON of immunities from the whole construct thing. Also, you're missing a lot of fluff, you should add more. As is, it's quite bland. Hope this helps.

Incidentally the title suggest there is only female constructs. Besides explaining why constructs have a gender period (is it a mental thing, in which case why aren't their both genders) or a body type thing (in which case, why are they all girls)? What's up with that? -- Eiji Hyrule 03:13, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

@Living Construct: No, there was an extended conversation on the Den about this very subject, and this race was part of the results of that discussion. The only workable traits for a robot with a Constitution and Intelligence score in the Construct type were immunity to poison and disease (which could go either way), being susceptible to robo-killing specialties, and being fixed up by repair spells. At that point Humanoid (Construct) conveys that information better.

@Fluff: Yeah. I'm not sure how much was on the original thread. I'll add "flavorize the Robot Girl" to my to-do list above "add more pokeymans".

@Gender: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RobotGirl. I personally think you could use the same thing for, say, Astro Boy. Will have to talk to Koumei about that. --Quantumboost 17:33, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Construct isn't a subtype, but you may be able to pull off Humanoid (Augmented Construct). I believe that works, in that you don't get immunities, but you do get the features (which by in large don't matter since you lack racial HD), but then also count as a construct for all things, etc etc. -- Eiji Hyrule 19:04, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Construct is totally a subtype, in the same way that Laser Eyes is a racial ability; it was made at the moment this race was. There's also a vaguely related Construct type, which is not problematic in the same way that having both a Fire subtype and a Fire spell descriptor is not problematic. But I've added it to the Wiki for good measure. ;) --Quantumboost 19:30, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Looks like the redundant department of redundancy is on the case, since Augmented Construct (which is a subtype and does exist) does what you want. Uh, more power to you I geuss. -- Eiji Hyrule 02:43, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

There is no template involved, Augmented Construct just leads to confusion. I fail to see how it's "better" than just writing in Construct. --Quantumboost 06:57, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Confusion, Questions and Clarification

Got a few questions/comments here:

1. As they are humanoids, are they to be affected by spells that affect humanoids, like enlarge person, polymorph or not? Also, being humanoids they may take templates and such that affect humanoids, such as lycanthrope. Is this intentional to the design?

2. Do they breathe?

3. Is Lightning-Powered an Extraordinary ability or Supernatural?

4. What the heck is "Light" damage (listed under Laser Eyes)?

I will discuss balance after this is resolved. --Ganteka Future 03:20, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'll leave Koumei to comment on the intent bits, but:

1. They are in fact able to be affected by spells that affect Humanoids and not non-Humanoids, unless the spell specifically calls out that it doesn't affect Constructs. Enlarge person doesn't fail to affect Constructs because they're Constructs - it fails to affect them because they aren't Humanoids, so it would affect a Humanoid (Construct).

2. Humanoids, unless noted otherwise, breathe; and it isn't noted otherwise here.

3. It isn't stated as either, so that would make it a "natural" ability - like a Dwarf's Stonecutting.

4. Light damage probably means that it's a [Light] effect that deals otherwise untyped damage. At least, that's how I've seen it referred to elsewhere.

--Quantumboost 05:17, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Light damage is what's done by Lantern Archons with their little rays. So it, yes, is a [Light] effect which bypasses energy and damage resistance. [Light] effects do more damage to some kinds of undead, like vampires, which are weak to it. You can also check spells like Searing Light and so on. --Genowhirl 17:45, May 27, 2010 (UTC)