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Prerequisites and Notes

you can qualify for this class at 17th level. that alone makes it not so good. i think the pre reqs needs to be nerfed--NameViolation 22:03, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the skill rank prerequisites are silly, unless it just means the skill modifier, which would be sillier. Also, note that the page title is correct and all reference to the DnD magical beast should be spelled griffon within the article (as is currently not the case, mysteriously). --Ganteka Future 23:20, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
Hehe, i will fix the error with griffon its just my computer for some odd reason is registering it as an incorrect spelling and is auto-correcting it, which i will fix now. I also made the requirements somewhat lessened, and I added in one more bit of detail for paladins or blackguards who become griffin riders as well. - Vestrione Seshione 00:14, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
all done with everything, let me know the verdict. - Vestrione Seshione 00:39, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
I had a little talk with some of my friends and found a couple of small edits. First the momentous cleave attack should gain damage for extra height on the attack instead of a bonus to the attack, as it would hit the enemy harder but it wouldn't improve the chances of a hit. Second, the Griffon Rider's Griffon requires more dexterity for its combat maneuvers, so the Strength adjustment was changed to a dexterity adjustment. The last edit was clarification on the Griffon's feat progression, because the griffon can gain feats as well, which allows for more flexibility in the griffon for the player to mess with. Vestrione Seshione 23:00, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
The Momentous Cleave ability is a little messy as written. You might want to separate it into two abilities, Cleave and Charge, so you can make clear what rules go where. In addition, there is no weapon I'm aware of, including natural attacks, with a critical multiplier of less then x2, so the line about critical multipliers is unnecessary. You might also have it require a DC 20 ride check, where failure negates the attack and failure by 5 or more causes a fall for the griffon. Aerial Sneak Attack, as written, is EXACTLY like rogue sneak-attack - is this intentional, or is some aerial component meant to apply? I don't know if a rider and his mount automatically flank, but you might want to just replace this ability with a synergistic damage bonus when both creatures attack the same target in a round. Hive Mind is an odd name; you might try something with Bond in it instead. - Viatos 03:19, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
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